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conflict as to what the president said he said the to tell his people do every do and confirm from the pentagon knew was in charge with the state department or urgent -- but leon panetta says it is not 911 that when your people are in danger that is more than 911. lou: john bolton serving the government to hear the secretary of defense to realize the outcry and a need warhol from the ambassador and officials from the government as a 911 call and department of defense can respond, how upset were you? >> i was beyond upset and speechless to what the testimony showed. it revealed incompetence at the top of the obama administration that is breathtaking. the president not concerned with americans under attack, secretary of state's all day long never once called to ask what might be done? the idea secretary not aware for request for satiric -- security saying can we help you out? nobody is hauled in this administration with national security. not just the failure of benghazi on negative benghazi but exposing the risk of facilities, citizens and their country to attacks worldwide. these people and not
conflict as to what the president said he said the to tell his people do every do and confirm from the pentagon knew was in charge with the state department or urgent -- but leon panetta says it is not 911 that when your people are in danger that is more than 911. lou: john bolton serving the government to hear the secretary of defense to realize the outcry and a need warhol from the ambassador and officials from the government as a 911 call and department of defense can respond, how upset were...
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that killed, you know, 3,000 innocent people in our trade center and killed almost 200 people at the pentagon as well as those in pennsylvania. it was a deliberate act of terrorism. we went to war. and when you go to war and you have an enemy out there, you've got to use everything you can to make sure you go after that enemy. and that's what we did. and the fact is we had very precise effective operations to go right at al qaeda's leadership. and by weakening them and by significantly impacting them especially with the bin laden raid the fact is we are safer today from that 9/11-type attack. >> there seems to be some concern even the president did an interview with mark bouden and said there's a remoteness to it that makes it tempting that somehow we can without any mess on our hands solve vexing security problems. it's the morale -- >> you know, as a catholic i remember when i first became director of the cia and realized that i was making life and death decisions with regards to our operations. it doesn't come lightly. you've got to really think about it. you've got to make sure that we re
that killed, you know, 3,000 innocent people in our trade center and killed almost 200 people at the pentagon as well as those in pennsylvania. it was a deliberate act of terrorism. we went to war. and when you go to war and you have an enemy out there, you've got to use everything you can to make sure you go after that enemy. and that's what we did. and the fact is we had very precise effective operations to go right at al qaeda's leadership. and by weakening them and by significantly...
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hagel's appointment could threaten future relationships in the pentagon in his ability to do the job. >> if i were chuck hagel i'd go to the president and say do you still have confidence in me? do you think i could do the job. >> you would offer to potentially withdraw? >> you've got to if you think you're not going to be effective because of what's happened. >> the whole issue isn't getting confirmed. it's whether he'll have political capital as defense secretary to work with the congress and generals in a meaningful way. >>> coming up next, part of a one on one discussion i had with a man who has had just about every powerful position in washington other than the presidency, defense secretary leon panetta on his four decades in washington, the morality of drone strikes and advice he has for president obama. >>> plus the pack men, karl rove's new plan to pour cold water on the tea party and keep senate seats in the republican column. today's politics planner, as you can see, former president clinton will be speaking at ed koch's funeral, president obama is off to minneapolis and chr
hagel's appointment could threaten future relationships in the pentagon in his ability to do the job. >> if i were chuck hagel i'd go to the president and say do you still have confidence in me? do you think i could do the job. >> you would offer to potentially withdraw? >> you've got to if you think you're not going to be effective because of what's happened. >> the whole issue isn't getting confirmed. it's whether he'll have political capital as defense secretary to...
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the plan had received support from the pentagon, the cia, secretary clinton. but ultimately it was the white house that turned down the idea. >> both of you agreed with petraeus and clinton that we should start looking at military assistance in syria, is that correct? >> that was our position. i do want to say, senator, that obviously there were a number of factors that were reversed here that ultimately led to the president's decision to make it nonlethal. i supported his decision in the end. but the answer to your question is yes. >> for both of you? >> yes. >> "the wall street journal" says the white house was concerned about which rebels could be trusted with arms. was also worried about the risk of drawing the united states into another military conflict. but it was questions over benghazi that led to the most heated moments with secretary panetta and general dempsey defending the administration's response to the deadly raid on the u.s. consulate. >> for you to testify that our posture would not allow a rapid response, our posture was not there because we
the plan had received support from the pentagon, the cia, secretary clinton. but ultimately it was the white house that turned down the idea. >> both of you agreed with petraeus and clinton that we should start looking at military assistance in syria, is that correct? >> that was our position. i do want to say, senator, that obviously there were a number of factors that were reversed here that ultimately led to the president's decision to make it nonlethal. i supported his decision...
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>> jennifer griffin for us at the pentagon. thanks. >>> is the president fully engaged in foreign policy? we'll ask the fox all-stars when we return. all right that's a fifth-floor problem... ok. not in my house! ha ha ha! ha ha ha! no no no! not today! ha ha ha! ha ha ha! jimmy how happy are folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico? happier than dikembe mutumbo blocking a shot. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. i'm here to pick up some cacti. it should be under stephens. the verizon share everything plan for small business. get a shareable pool of data... got enough joshua trees? ... on up to 25 devices. so you can spend less time... yea, the golden barrels... managing wireless costs and technology and more time driving your business potential. looks like we're going to need to order more agaves... ah! oh! ow! ... and more bandages. that's powerful. sharble data plus unlimited talk and text. now save $50 on a droid razr maxx hd by motorola. by the armful? by the barrelfu
>> jennifer griffin for us at the pentagon. thanks. >>> is the president fully engaged in foreign policy? we'll ask the fox all-stars when we return. all right that's a fifth-floor problem... ok. not in my house! ha ha ha! ha ha ha! no no no! not today! ha ha ha! ha ha ha! jimmy how happy are folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico? happier than dikembe mutumbo blocking a shot. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. i'm here to...
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can the pentagon survive budget cuts or are secretary panetta's worries on the mark? mort zuckerman. >> yes, i think they can survive it. they have a gigantic budget. they have to get their funds spent in the right priority. a lot of people feel we're going to have to cut costs out of virtually every department. we cannot ignore it. everybody comes one a case why we should spend money, and nobody comes one a case why we should raise the money to do it. we have to do something to get our budgets under control because otherwise this whole thing is going to explode. >> how does our military compare with mill fares around the world? >> we have about 1 million in the active owe. >> 1.2 million active -- 1.4 active duty, or something. but, john, if panetta is correct, why does the vice president the united states propose a different set of cuts for the same amount of money if it is going to savage the defense budget? he has not come forward with. that clearly this is a meat axe approach. it's not the right approach, but frankly it's the only way the republicans are going to
can the pentagon survive budget cuts or are secretary panetta's worries on the mark? mort zuckerman. >> yes, i think they can survive it. they have a gigantic budget. they have to get their funds spent in the right priority. a lot of people feel we're going to have to cut costs out of virtually every department. we cannot ignore it. everybody comes one a case why we should spend money, and nobody comes one a case why we should raise the money to do it. we have to do something to get our...
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the pentagon also making changes to its policy on same-sex spouses. the military will extend some benefits to those couples. leon panetta has not made a final decision on which benefits will be included, possibly health and welfare programs. an announcement is expected in the next few days that will clear that up. >>> straight ahead, targeting u.s. terrorists. just how effective are those military drone strikes? general barry mccafferty is going to weigh in. a change for monopoly and some may call it the cat's meow. so i used my citi thankyou card to pick up some accessories. a new belt. some nylons. and what girl wouldn't need new shoes? and with all the points i've been earning, i was able to get us a flight to our favorite climbing spot even on a holiday weekend. ♪ things are definitely looking up. [ male announcer ] with no blackout dates, you can use your citi thankyou points to travel whenever you want. visit citi.com/thankyoucards to apply. to travel whenever you want. all stations come over to mithis is for real this time. step seven point t
the pentagon also making changes to its policy on same-sex spouses. the military will extend some benefits to those couples. leon panetta has not made a final decision on which benefits will be included, possibly health and welfare programs. an announcement is expected in the next few days that will clear that up. >>> straight ahead, targeting u.s. terrorists. just how effective are those military drone strikes? general barry mccafferty is going to weigh in. a change for monopoly and...
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want to start with a washington battle on full display this week when the president's pick to head the pentagon, former republican senator chuck hagel, came under fire from members of his own party during a very contentious confirmation hearing. >> name one person in your opinion who's intim nated by the israeli lobby in the united states senate. >> are we right or wrong? that's a pretty straightforward question. >> senator hagel, please answer the question i asked. today, do you think unilateral sanctions would be a bad idea? >> all this raising questions about how effective chuck hagel will be if confirmed as secretary of defense. earlier this weekend, i sat down for a rare joint interview with the top military leadership issue the outgoing secretary of defense leon panetta and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff general martin dempsey. >>> secretary panetta, welcome back to "meet the press." general dempsey, welcome. let me start with the man that is poised to take your place. he underwent on thursday a pretty tough round of questioning. he seemed to struggle with a lot of the answers.
want to start with a washington battle on full display this week when the president's pick to head the pentagon, former republican senator chuck hagel, came under fire from members of his own party during a very contentious confirmation hearing. >> name one person in your opinion who's intim nated by the israeli lobby in the united states senate. >> are we right or wrong? that's a pretty straightforward question. >> senator hagel, please answer the question i asked. today, do...
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the pentagon is shrinking its presence in the persian gulf of aircraft carriers. it's par of that long list that secretary panetta that said these cuts are going to have to happen in the coming weeks all because congress cannot agree on an alternative to the budget cuts that are going to kick in as well as a 2013 budget. the "uss truman" was expected to pull out of norfolk tomorrow to head to the persian gulf but wednesday afternoon word came in the truman will stay in port to save money. >> playing the waiting game. it's not very nice not knowing when we're pulling out. >> the pentagon is carrying u.s. presence overseas ahead of $55 billion budget cuts that kick in march 1st. >> this is not a game. >> outgoing defense secretary leon panetta says congress's avoidance of finding cuts is seriously damage america. >> they would degrade our ability to respond to crises precisely at a time of rising instability across the globe. >> the idea behind sequestration was that the budget cuts would be so objectionable here on capitol hill that congress would agree on an alter
the pentagon is shrinking its presence in the persian gulf of aircraft carriers. it's par of that long list that secretary panetta that said these cuts are going to have to happen in the coming weeks all because congress cannot agree on an alternative to the budget cuts that are going to kick in as well as a 2013 budget. the "uss truman" was expected to pull out of norfolk tomorrow to head to the persian gulf but wednesday afternoon word came in the truman will stay in port to save...
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we will be live from pentagon in a minute. >>> and falling from space, wow, pretty cool, at a rate of more than 843 miles per hour, that's how fast dare devil felix baumgartner fell when he jumped from space. the official speed has been released. even faster now than those record keepers thought at first. pretty cool stuff. >>> one of our top stories today at cnn, a secret american drone base somewhere in saudi arabia, now this is according, these are reports from two major newspapers today, saying that this u.s. launches these drone attacks against al qaeda targets from that particular base. i want to bring in two folks here at the pentagon chris lawrence also michael holmes from cnn international. chris, it's not a total surprise that this was there in saudi arabia, but certainly it was not something that they officially wanted to reveal. why are they doing it now? >> that's the big question, suzanne, why did this come out? we reported two years ago from our sources u.s. officials were telling us the cia was building an airstrip in the a arabian peninsula. it was hinted it would pos
we will be live from pentagon in a minute. >>> and falling from space, wow, pretty cool, at a rate of more than 843 miles per hour, that's how fast dare devil felix baumgartner fell when he jumped from space. the official speed has been released. even faster now than those record keepers thought at first. pretty cool stuff. >>> one of our top stories today at cnn, a secret american drone base somewhere in saudi arabia, now this is according, these are reports from two major...
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brennan and his speech at harvard by jay johnson, the former head -- the former lead counsel at the pentagon. and by eric holder today. but eric holder seemed to be either conflating or combining imminent threat with ongoing threat. tell me about the memo itself. >> that is exactly the rub. they have -- it is certainly true that administration officials, all those you mentioned, have articulated that it is the bottom administration policy that targeted killings of americans who are associated with al qaeda are lawful and constitutional under certain conditions, and the first concern is that the individual poses an imminent threat of a violent attack against the united states. in other words, capture is not feasible, and the operation is done according to law or principles. what this memo does, which is not something that has been public, is flesh that out and provide details about what they mean by that, and one of those striking points is when they get to defining imminent threat. they talk about a broader -- the memo explicitly says that they have intelligence that the targeted individual
brennan and his speech at harvard by jay johnson, the former head -- the former lead counsel at the pentagon. and by eric holder today. but eric holder seemed to be either conflating or combining imminent threat with ongoing threat. tell me about the memo itself. >> that is exactly the rub. they have -- it is certainly true that administration officials, all those you mentioned, have articulated that it is the bottom administration policy that targeted killings of americans who are...
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that this sequester is -- because of its sort of blunder bust approach that it does not permit the pentagon to make intelligent choices about what is needed, so it is going to get to readiness. ready city council what we need. >> this is the absurdness of washington. >> the white house proposed th-- >> proposing to get agreement on this. now the new strategy is, yeah, but you can't let that sequester happen because the spending cuts would be so awful when, in fact, there are democrats like dick durbin who will be on the program sunday who have said he doesn't really have a problem with the amount of spending cuts in the pentagon. it's a matter of how you go about doing it. republicans i think also have some leverage here by saying, you know, if you really get us down to it, if have to swallow these spending cuts, we're going take them because that might be good. you got your revenues there. zoolt sequester, we don't like it, but before it on. >> there's a lot of pain. particularly if are you from virginia and you have military cuts coming down your way, this is tough. spending cuts are toug
that this sequester is -- because of its sort of blunder bust approach that it does not permit the pentagon to make intelligent choices about what is needed, so it is going to get to readiness. ready city council what we need. >> this is the absurdness of washington. >> the white house proposed th-- >> proposing to get agreement on this. now the new strategy is, yeah, but you can't let that sequester happen because the spending cuts would be so awful when, in fact, there are...
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let's bring up the pentagon here and look at this. if this represented the entire budget of the pentagon, these cuts would only about this 8% or so up here at the top. that doesn't look like a whole lot right now, but the impact could be quite large. for example, one of the cuts would be to 46,000 department of defense jobs, which would be endangered with men and women and enlisted families, in fact, facing lower pay raises next year than they would expect. what about beyond that? the civilian population, working for the defense department. 800,000 civilians could face these 22-day furloughs, a forced furlough. it's a forced vacation. essentially, they're losing an entire month of pay out of the year, big impact on a lot of those folks out there. beyond that, there could be a reduction in training and maintenance for many people. that would have a bigger impact, probably in forward bases, where people are deployed, like afghanistan. beyond that, a reduction in naval operations. and finally, a reduction, in fact, in the number of hours
let's bring up the pentagon here and look at this. if this represented the entire budget of the pentagon, these cuts would only about this 8% or so up here at the top. that doesn't look like a whole lot right now, but the impact could be quite large. for example, one of the cuts would be to 46,000 department of defense jobs, which would be endangered with men and women and enlisted families, in fact, facing lower pay raises next year than they would expect. what about beyond that? the civilian...
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. >> and 16 months after appealing "don't ask, don't tell," the pentagon plans to extend some military benefits to same sex partners. exactly which has not been decided r decided, but they could include some health and welfare programs. >>> boy scouts of america announce a delay today. they will need more time to does whether or not to lift the ban on gay leader respect and scouts. the organization said it would take action at its national meeting in may.the organization take action at its national meeting in may. >>> and tulane university admitting to falsifying their reports. >>> gun control advocates had a lot of star power today on capitol hill. celebrities like tony bennett, chris rock and amanda pete all speaking up against the mars against illegal gun campaign. >> my sister practiced stern al medicine at an innercity hospital in north philadelphia. they see about 500 gunshot wound victims per year. that's one trauma center just in the neighborhood of north philly. and that doesn't take into account mortalities. despite these numbers, some people believe my sister should be prohi
. >> and 16 months after appealing "don't ask, don't tell," the pentagon plans to extend some military benefits to same sex partners. exactly which has not been decided r decided, but they could include some health and welfare programs. >>> boy scouts of america announce a delay today. they will need more time to does whether or not to lift the ban on gay leader respect and scouts. the organization said it would take action at its national meeting in may.the...
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the pentagon's top brass pushed back on questions about the military response in benghazi. >> are you surprised that the president of the united states never called you secretary panetta, and says how is it going? >> you know, normally in these situations -- >> did he know the level of threat that -- >> let me finish the answer. we were deploying the forces. he knew we were deploying the forces. he was being kept -- >> i hate to intript you, but i have limited time. we didn't deploy any forces. >> it was over by the time -- >> mr. secretary, you didn't know how long the attack would last. did you ever call him and say, mr. president, it looks like we don't have anything to get there any time soon? >> the event was over before -- >> it lasted almost eight hours, and my question to you is during that eight-hour period did the president show any curiosity about how is this going, what kind of assets do you have helping these people? did he ever make that phone call? >> look, there is no question in my mind the president of the united states was concerned about american lives. >> well, al
the pentagon's top brass pushed back on questions about the military response in benghazi. >> are you surprised that the president of the united states never called you secretary panetta, and says how is it going? >> you know, normally in these situations -- >> did he know the level of threat that -- >> let me finish the answer. we were deploying the forces. he knew we were deploying the forces. he was being kept -- >> i hate to intript you, but i have limited...
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that will quite trivial by comparison that's my worst case i want to ask you about the new face of the pentagon chuck hagel he allowed himself to say right attacking iran is a stupid idea and i believe you also called for direct negotiations do you think we could see direct negotiations any time soon with chuck hagel in ministration well i think that that former senator hagel has taken courageous positions on iran on a range of issues and i admire them and respect them and the concern i have is that he is being nominated for the wrong job to carry out those positions his defense secretary if he is a if he is if he's approved to be as defense secretary he will not be the person in charge of creating or implementing strategies of iran or any other foreign policy issue. he will be he will be at the defense department doing quintessentially defense secretary things in this environment which is to cut the budget and try to keep the united states out of another war now that peace try to keep the united states out of another war could have impact here but the problem is he what he could potentially tr
that will quite trivial by comparison that's my worst case i want to ask you about the new face of the pentagon chuck hagel he allowed himself to say right attacking iran is a stupid idea and i believe you also called for direct negotiations do you think we could see direct negotiations any time soon with chuck hagel in ministration well i think that that former senator hagel has taken courageous positions on iran on a range of issues and i admire them and respect them and the concern i have is...
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buckets of money in the private sector, including serving on the board of a major contractor with the pentagon. mr. gates gave speeches, lots of them, for which he was paid plenty. but when bob gates testified before the senate, the subject of his private sector earnings never came up. after five hours of non-confrontational questions, the committee volt ford him unanimously. and then when it went to the full senate they confirmed him 95-2. the nominee before, that remember this guy? donald rumsfeld, 2001. donald rumsfeld, of course, had made zillions in the private sector. he sat on the board of a company that was believed to have won a giant contract to help north korea build nuclear reactors. but when donald rumsfeld testified before the senate, they didn't ask about the stock that he held or his roles in international business. they didn't even ask about the north korean reactors. they recommended his nomination to the full senate where he was confirmed in another vote of 95-2. so if history has anything to say about it, then what's happening to chuck hagel right now is not at all normal.
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gates who was secretary of defense until the day before yesterday he was part of this operation in the pentagon today you still have somebody in the top five or six michael vickers in the department who actually participated in creating al qaida it's the cia arab legion but at the same time those who have been gone for over a year vickers i think is still there unless i'm going out and that it can happen at a gate well i was i was panetta gates of course but he was he's been there and he presided over the beginning of these these operations with libya and so forth but but take michael because anyway the other interesting point is with the state department get down to the level of sort of technical failures the visa for mood talab the christmas day bomber over detroit if his visa had been pulled he could not have boarded that plane he couldn't have gotten onto the plane for the united states and the state department are the ones who failed to do that so if we look at her record it's a story of failure on multiple points and nevertheless this is balanced by this amazing complacency this amazing s
gates who was secretary of defense until the day before yesterday he was part of this operation in the pentagon today you still have somebody in the top five or six michael vickers in the department who actually participated in creating al qaida it's the cia arab legion but at the same time those who have been gone for over a year vickers i think is still there unless i'm going out and that it can happen at a gate well i was i was panetta gates of course but he was he's been there and he...
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meanwhile, "usa today" is reporting the pentagon as outlined a series of major spending cuts that will kick in march 1st unless the president and congress reach a spending bill to avoid sequestration. many worry is to have a devastating effect of military. our very own willis joins us now. >> at least 1 trillion. and the cells of what this would look like. perez's cat. a third reduction on aircraft maintenance, elimination of airshows. cuts in funding for army intelligence surveillance aircraft and equipment. that is something you expect. just buy more than half the number of flying hours for planes on carriers in the mideast. is really starting to get that power protected, who is out there on our behalf, how many folks are really in harm's way watching out for our interest. tracy: we talked about how technology jobs and the military will be cut. that means we're not coming up with new ideas to protect ourselves from the bad guys. >> the debate over the sequestered, as you know, which has been ongoing. the big deal with republicans, republicans him as they said yesterday, the split, th
meanwhile, "usa today" is reporting the pentagon as outlined a series of major spending cuts that will kick in march 1st unless the president and congress reach a spending bill to avoid sequestration. many worry is to have a devastating effect of military. our very own willis joins us now. >> at least 1 trillion. and the cells of what this would look like. perez's cat. a third reduction on aircraft maintenance, elimination of airshows. cuts in funding for army intelligence...
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committee i remember all of the machinations as watergate unfolded i also remember danial ellsberg and the pentagon papers and all of the violations of american rights and liberties by our own government that were veals in those congressional investigations the church committee hearings in which the mare america found out just how far the government had gone to silence or dissidents journalists activists and those who had become enemies of the state as defined by the government in secret now that was the one nine hundred seventy s. . and frank church had warned the nation then particularly respect to the technology of the national security agency and others. that if we ever found ourselves in a similar scenario in the future would we be able be able to pull ourselves back across the rubicon because it might be too late well speaking of too late do you think that not only the egregious erosion of their our civil liberties systematically so far after an event like nine eleven but that coupled with the corporate state that actually profits off this the surveillance state all of these these military in
committee i remember all of the machinations as watergate unfolded i also remember danial ellsberg and the pentagon papers and all of the violations of american rights and liberties by our own government that were veals in those congressional investigations the church committee hearings in which the mare america found out just how far the government had gone to silence or dissidents journalists activists and those who had become enemies of the state as defined by the government in secret now...
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drone does this cast a special in on what the pentagon has been saying it certainly does and i think that was damage control it's very embarrassing for them to admit that a country that's supposedly so primitive in many respects iran was capable of basically hijacking that drone and then as it seems to be the case what iran has claimed that they reverse engineered it they now are claiming that they have built their own line of drones that they're assembling them and i think that makes the whole sort of power equation quite a bit more complicated very very interesting obviously is a subject of great alarm in washington yeah i mean it seems like there is more quiet things like when it comes to drones there's always more questions than answers of course with this new development iran and iran. iran saying one thing the u.s. is saying another a whole lot of questions of course the issue of drones is finally in the spotlight now it's supposed to be a focal point of john brennan's confirmation hearing to be the head of the cia do you expect that there will be more transparency on the drone
drone does this cast a special in on what the pentagon has been saying it certainly does and i think that was damage control it's very embarrassing for them to admit that a country that's supposedly so primitive in many respects iran was capable of basically hijacking that drone and then as it seems to be the case what iran has claimed that they reverse engineered it they now are claiming that they have built their own line of drones that they're assembling them and i think that makes the whole...
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that will quite trivial by comparison that's my worst case i want to ask you about the new face of the pentagon chuck hagel he allowed himself to say right attacking iran is a stupid idea and i believe you also called for direct negotiations do you think we could see direct negotiations any time soon with chuck hagel in the ministration well if he i think that that former senator hagel has taken courageous positions on iran on a range of issues and i admire them and respect them and the concern i have is that he is being nominated for the wrong job to carry out those positions his defense secretary if he is or if he is if he's approved to be as defense secretary he will not be the person in charge of creating or implementing strategies of iran or any other foreign policy issue. he will be he will be at the defensive. i mean doing quintessentially defense secretary things in this environment which is to cut the budget and try to keep the united states out of another war now that peace try to keep the united states out of another war could have impact here but the problem is he what he could pote
that will quite trivial by comparison that's my worst case i want to ask you about the new face of the pentagon chuck hagel he allowed himself to say right attacking iran is a stupid idea and i believe you also called for direct negotiations do you think we could see direct negotiations any time soon with chuck hagel in the ministration well if he i think that that former senator hagel has taken courageous positions on iran on a range of issues and i admire them and respect them and the concern...
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committee i remember all of the machinations as watergate unfolded i also remember daniel ellsberg and the pentagon papers and all of the violations of american rights and liberties by our own government that were veals in those congressional investigations the church committee hearings in which the mare america found out just how far the government had gone to silence or dissidents journalists activists and those who had become enemies of the state as defined by the government in secret now that was the one nine hundred seventy s. . and frank church had warned the nation that in particular respect to the technology of the national security agency and others. that if we ever found ourselves in a similar scenario in the future would we be able be able to pull ourselves back across the rubicon because it might be too late well speaking of too late do you think that not only the egregious erosion of their our civil liberties systematically so far after an event like nine eleven but that coupled with the corporate state that actually profits off this the surveillance state all of these these military i
committee i remember all of the machinations as watergate unfolded i also remember daniel ellsberg and the pentagon papers and all of the violations of american rights and liberties by our own government that were veals in those congressional investigations the church committee hearings in which the mare america found out just how far the government had gone to silence or dissidents journalists activists and those who had become enemies of the state as defined by the government in secret now...
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committee i remember all of the machinations as watergate unfolded i also remember daniel ellsberg and the pentagon papers and all of the violations of american rights and liberties by our own government that were veals in those congressional investigations the church committee hearings in which the mare america found out just how far the government had gone to silence. or dissidents journalists activists and those who become enemies of the state as defined by the government in secret now that was the one nine hundred seventy s. . and frank church had warned the nation that in particular respect to the technology of the national security agency and others that if we ever found ourselves in a similar scenario in the future would we be able be able to pull ourselves back across the rubicon because it might be too late well speaking of too late do you think that the not only the egregious erosion of their our civil liberties systematically so far after an event like nine eleven but that coupled with the corporate state that actually profits off this the surveillance state all of these these military i
committee i remember all of the machinations as watergate unfolded i also remember daniel ellsberg and the pentagon papers and all of the violations of american rights and liberties by our own government that were veals in those congressional investigations the church committee hearings in which the mare america found out just how far the government had gone to silence. or dissidents journalists activists and those who become enemies of the state as defined by the government in secret now that...
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committee i remember all of the machinations as watergate unfolded i also remember daniel ellsberg in the pentagon papers and all of the violations of american rights and liberties by our own government that were veals in those congressional investigations the church committee hearings in which the mare america found out just how far the government had gone to silence. or dissidents journalists activists and those who become enemies of the state as defined by the government in secret now that was the one nine hundred seventy s. . and frank church had warned the nation that in particular respect to the technology of the national security agency and others that if we ever found ourselves in a similar scenario in the future would we able be able to pull ourselves back across the rubicon because it might be too late well speaking of too late do you think that the not only the egregious erosion of their our civil liberties systematically so far after an event like nine eleven but that coupled with the corporate state that actually profits off this the surveillance state all of these these military indu
committee i remember all of the machinations as watergate unfolded i also remember daniel ellsberg in the pentagon papers and all of the violations of american rights and liberties by our own government that were veals in those congressional investigations the church committee hearings in which the mare america found out just how far the government had gone to silence. or dissidents journalists activists and those who become enemies of the state as defined by the government in secret now that...
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committee i remember all of the machinations as watergate unfolded i also remember daniel ellsberg in the pentagon papers and all of the violations of american rights and liberties by our own government that were veals in those congressional investigations the church committee hearings in which the mare america found out just how far the government had gone to silence or dissidents journalists activists and those who become enemies of the state as defined by the government in secret now that was the one nine hundred seventy s. . and frank church had warned the nation then particularly respect to the technology of the national security agency and others. that if we ever found ourselves in a similar scenario in the future would we able be able to pull ourselves back across the rubicon because it might be too late well speaking of too late do you think that the not only the egregious erosion of their our civil liberties systematically so far after an event like nine eleven but that coupled with the corporate state that actually profits off this the surveillance state all of these these military indus
committee i remember all of the machinations as watergate unfolded i also remember daniel ellsberg in the pentagon papers and all of the violations of american rights and liberties by our own government that were veals in those congressional investigations the church committee hearings in which the mare america found out just how far the government had gone to silence or dissidents journalists activists and those who become enemies of the state as defined by the government in secret now that...
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>> apparently, the agencies, primarily the pentagon and the c.i.a. nominate people to be on the list. and it goes through what the white house promises is a very rigorous process of review to determine if those people should or should not be on the list. we don't know exactly what the standard is. but it involves a number of criteria, including whether the host country, the country in which this person, particular person is cooperative or not vis-À-vis capturing the person. in any event, they have a standard. names are nominated. it goes through an interagency process. and finally it makes it to the president. and he makes the final decision who is or is not on the list. does that sound like what you understand? >> i think that's certainly what the government has said happens. and, of course, this is the problem is that the only thing that we ever know about the counterintelligence stuff over the last 10 or 11 years has been, you know, what the government has been forced to say, what journalists have been able to find out, or what human rights organ
>> apparently, the agencies, primarily the pentagon and the c.i.a. nominate people to be on the list. and it goes through what the white house promises is a very rigorous process of review to determine if those people should or should not be on the list. we don't know exactly what the standard is. but it involves a number of criteria, including whether the host country, the country in which this person, particular person is cooperative or not vis-À-vis capturing the person. in any event,...